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Georgia allows registration of WT as an NGO in 2003! no persecution!

by Dogpatch in

check this out!

someone just mailed me this excerpt from:.

http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/hrrpt/2004/41682.htm.

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Golden Girl

The only thing that interests me is why they were recognized as still being a NGO member in Georgia at least a year after they resigned..get it? Either Georgia is lying..or the WTBTS signed up again..and I don't think they did as they are no longer listed under NGO's

(Said in a nice tone to a motherly type who is a little confused...)

You still don't get it. They are not an "NGO Member", they are an "NGO". The WT being an NGO is not a problem, the Watchtower being recognized as an NGO by Georgia is not a problem. They are an NGO. a Non-Governmental-Organization, always have been, always will be.

The question is, are they registered with the UN and its DPI as a NGO? The answer is NO. They no longer are affiliated with the UN as a registered NGO. They left back in 2001, we all know why.

So, to recap, Georgia is not lying, and the Society has not renewed their relationship with the UN.

As I said, nothing here to see...

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Georgia allows registration of WT as an NGO in 2003! no persecution!

by Dogpatch in

check this out!

someone just mailed me this excerpt from:.

http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/hrrpt/2004/41682.htm.

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As Elsewhere and Jeffro have pointed out, this has nothing to do with the WT joining the UN back in the 90's.

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Why should Kingdom Hall sales proceeds go to the Watchtower?

by VM44 in

suppose a whole congregation decides it has had enough of the watchtower.

suppose also that they have paid for their own kingdom hall and the mortgage is paid off in full.. why should they not be free to rename the kh to some other name, or, if they want to, sell it and keep the money?.

legally, why should the watchtower think it has a claim on the kingdom hall property?

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First of all VM, your opening question is based on an erroneous assumption that refuses to die among some apostates.

Regardless of that, yes, back in the 80's an entire congregation in Texas broke away, and yes they took the Kingdom Hall with them. I'm sure the Society was not happy about it, but they are limited by the fact that it has become increasingly important for them to maintain the legal fiction that there is no connection between the org and the congregations. If the Society had the title to each Kingdom Hall, it would be obvious who was in charge. That would be a major liability to them when they are being faced with lawsuits left and right.

And really, the odds of an entire congregation going apostate, are pretty slim.

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JWs required to report medical information to elders

by Elsewhere in

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there was an article, i believe in the awake!, that talks about a hypothetical medical worker who in a hypothetical situation comes to find out that a jw has accepted a medical procedure that is not accepted by the wts.

this hypothetical worker must decide where or not she will report the hypothetical violation to the elders.

does anyone recall where i can find this article?

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At that time I just came to the conclusion that nothing ever stays hidden and eventually things will be found out, just not by me.

See, thats a very reasonable approach. What ever happened to "waiting on Jehovah?"

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WHO IS IN CHARGE OF THE WRITING DEPT?????

by yesidid in

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does anyone know who is in charge of the writing dept in brooklyn.. .

yesidid.

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Why, Jehovah of course!!!

14

Another way to fleece the flock

by inbyathread in

yes we all heard about the $8 million dollar co's health and car payment that the congregations are to pay.

how about the yearly (or monthly) insurance premium that must be payed by the congregation to, you guessed it, the wtbts.

the congregation pays to build the kh.

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Hands the title to the Society. Pays the loan to the society, pays the interest to the society, pays for maintenance and repair costs and pays the insurance premium for a building they don't even own.

Ok, why does this idea refuse to go away? The Society does not have ownership of the local Kingdom Halls, yet this assertion pops up about every other week on this board. Here in the U.S. anyway, each congregation has a local corporation that owns the Kingdom Hall.

That, and the one about that not everyone on the GB is of the "anointed" anymore. Sheesh...

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26

Boring talks - elders not invited again

by stillajwexelder in

i heard today, the most boring talk ever.

speaker had zero enthusiasm and zero modulation.

it was awful and many others thought so too.

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JT,

I thought I'd heard that the visiting speaker was supposed to get counseled on his talk afterwards, privately by one of the loca lelders. Usually it never happened, but I thought that was how it worked.

Then again I never gave a public talk...

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14

Anyone recognise this 2005 Watchtower CD on Ebay?

by nicolaou in

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here's the link, you may have to cut & paste it into your browser; http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/ebayisapi.dll?viewitem&category=16710&item=5577875725&rd=1.

an individual mag' on a cd?

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Just to be totally painfully nitpicky... that is an audio CD version of the Watchtower. There is also an MP3 version; for some reason they offer it in both formats at the present time.

I only know this because I saw a stack of these recently and noticed the two different formats, both types were current issues.

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27

What's the last good fantasy or scifi book that you could'nt put down?

by Leander in

so what's the last fantasy/scifi book that you read that was just so good you could'nt put it down until you were done reading it?

i need a few recommendations, i'm in the mood for a good book.. for me the last really good scifi book was orson scott card's "ender's game".

for a long time i avoided this book because i thought it was aimed at a younger audience, but after hearing so many people praise it i finally took a chance on it.

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I just finished re-reading Ender's Game (first read it many years ago, might have been just a short story back then); now I am working through the rest of the series, almost finished with Speaker for the Dead. Its good too, but quite different from Ender's Game. I am looking forward to the books that go back and pick up the story on Earth- Ender's Shadow and its sequels.

Before that I started reading Stephen Baxter, awesome hard sci-fi stuff. Then there was Harry Turtledove's Worldwar and Colonization series, also very good. I see he has just written a follow-up which I hope will wrap it up.

Also read Peter Hamilton's Reality Disfunction/Night's Dawn series... more goodness...

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Evidence for evolution, Installment 5: Lake Tanganyika, etc

by seattleniceguy in

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hey gang!

i apologize for my absence of a few weeks.

i have been very busy with work lately, and i hate to write something that i haven't been able to research properly, so i haven't posted anything in this series for three weeks now.

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Now for the JW response:

First of all, the Bible speaks of animals reproducing according to their kind. The Bible's 'kind' is not the same as what a scientist refers to as a 'species'. Although there can be much variation within a kind, it still remains as the same kind.

So yes, although there may be several different species of this cichlid fish, for example, the fact remains that they are all still fish. They have not turned into reptiles or amphibians.

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